View Thread: Sport bikes vs. Super bikes


87 Supra Turbo
I've heard the two different terms thrown around and many people use them interchangably(sp?). I recall hearing something a while ago that they were in fact different. Is it just power that differentiates the two or are there other factors?

Sia Bani
well, here's an example that I know a lot about.

The sv650s is a standard, but it really looks like a sport bike. It may not have the sportbike positioning of the rider (ie. leaning forward), but that's why its a great starter bike.

A superbike is like a supercar in that its got crazy power.

SLP Addict
Superbike=Haybusa

Shaman
I have a SV650S right now. I'm going to sell or trade it in on a SV1000 this spring. Great bike, and unlike a lot of superbikes you can crank the throttle wide open through almost any corner, whereas a superbike is so fast that you can't do a lot with it anywhere but a big track without scaring the sweet creeping zombie jesus out of yourself.

BTW, I think the 'busa is a pile of junk. Most of the downsides of a superbike but 100 pounds heavier, so it's not a handler.

GSXR-1000 is, IMHO the very top superbike out there right now. But you had best have a Kong sized set of balls on you if you plan to actually tap into what it has for performance.

dunnas
Originally posted by Shaman
I have a SV650S right now. I'm going to sell or trade it in on a SV1000 this spring. Great bike, and unlike a lot of superbikes you can crank the throttle wide open through almost any corner, whereas a superbike is so fast that you can't do a lot with it anywhere but a big track without scaring the sweet creeping zombie jesus out of yourself.

BTW, I think the 'busa is a pile of junk. Most of the downsides of a superbike but 100 pounds heavier, so it's not a handler.

GSXR-1000 is, IMHO the very top superbike out there right now. But you had best have a Kong sized set of balls on you if you plan to actually tap into what it has for performance.

Damn, you have an SV650S too. I guess I'll have to try and be nice to you then. That shouldn't be a problem though unless you come out with your world famous line that we all know and love the world over. ;)

So what colour have you got??

dunnas
Originally posted by Sia Bani
well, here's an example that I know a lot about.

The sv650s is a standard, but it really looks like a sport bike. It may not have the sportbike positioning of the rider (ie. leaning forward), but that's why its a great starter bike.

A superbike is like a supercar in that its got crazy power.

I think that the SV650S can actually be called a sports bike. Superbike is not really a word I hear to describe a motorbike, however supersports is a term that is generally used for racier biles like CBR's, ZXR's, GSX's etc until you get to the bikes over a 1000cc where they really become more sports tourers or something like that.

Sia Bani
Originally posted by dunnas
Damn, you have an SV650S like me. I guess I'll have to try and get along with you on here, which won't be a problem unless you come out with your world famous line that we all know and love the world over.

So what colour have you got??
sons of bitches, both of you. .:badass: I've probably wanted an SV650s (yellow) longer than both of you, I got my license in the summer, but I can't make myself go buy one yet.

dunnas
Originally posted by Sia Bani
sons of bitches, both of you. .:badass: I've probably wanted an SV650s (yellow) longer than both of you, I got my license in the summer, but I can't make myself go buy one yet.

Damn, you quoted me before I edited my post slighlier to sound friendlier.

As for wanting an SV650S longer, that's certainly true for me. It was you posting about the SV650S about a month ago that got me to look into them and eventually buy one.

If it wasn't for you I would most likely be riding something quite differently.

SLP Addict
sell the hoe, and bye a old used geo metro, and a SV650 if u want it do bad!

Sia Bani
Originally posted by SLP Addict
sell the hoe, and bye a old used geo metro, and a SV650 if u want it do bad!

I could buy 2 new metros for what the hoe's worht right now, punk.

A-Tech
yeah, but hes saying use the friggin money to buy the bike. who makes the SV650

Sia Bani
Originally posted by A-Tech
yeah, but hes saying use the friggin money to buy the bike. who makes the SV650

no need for the translation...

Suzuki.

dunnas
Yep suzuki

dunnas
look at the power of the beast.

That's mph there on the speedo. :D

Shaman
I have a blue SV650S. I have a matching helmet as well. Vanity. :)

BTW, all I can get my bike up to is about 125mph, it runs out of steam right about there and believe me, I held it on the pin for about 8 miles, so that's what it'll do... won't pull sixth to do it, it's done in fifth.

Then again, I have a linebacker's shoulders, so even lying on the tank, I'm probably a little bit like my own air brakes. :(

My only complaint with the SV650 is the front end. It's not a true race/superbike quality front end. Boo hoo... the bike is half the price. :)

TURBOZ
The SV's are great bikes, just not my idea of a sport bike. I always looked at it like a touring bike. But, I did think they were capable of more than 125. thats all you got shamen? Any mods? My CBR with a full system and a jet kit went to 165 and back. I think I'm going to defect from Honda and go for a GSX-R 750 for the next one. The R6 and the 750 are battling for position in my mind hehe.

Rotary Boy
GSX-R750's kickass
they wiegh about as much as many 500cc bikes and have similar power to liter bikes from just a few years back, mine is the nicest bike I have owned and it is an excellent handler. a freind of mine has a hayabusa and my 750 is a much nicer overall supersport bike, handles well, is crazy fast and is actually quite easy to drive fast(whereas some bikes require pros to really extract their real power)

Felix Leiter
Hey Shaman, long time no see since R&T!

Nice bike, I am envious... I think I am heading down the SV650S road this coming spring. We'll see if I can scrounge a deal on a slightly used one (the dealers here tend to try and sell them as beginners bikes, therefore people sell 'em after a year and a couple thousand kms). The old EX500 needs tires, carb sync, valve job.... I'd rather spend the money on a new(er) bike!

If you watch racing the answer to part of the original poster's question is fairly simple:

600cc I4s (GSXR600, R6, ZX6R, CBR F4i, etc) and 750cc V-Twins (Ducati 748/749) race in the Super Sport (SS) class.

750cc I4s (GSXR750, ZX7R) and the 1000cc V-Twins (TL-R, RC-51, Ducati 998/999) race in the Super Bike (SB) class.

There is also an extreme class, made up of 1000cc I4 bikes (GSXR1000, R1, CBR 954, ZX9R).


The SV650S would be considered a sport standard, and the SV650 would be considered a naked bike (same as the SV650S but with higher bars, lower pegs, and no fairing)! Much like the definition of SPORTS CARS the modern definition of sport bikes is very confusing if not undefinitave!

Shaman
The real lure of the SV650S is that it's a twin. Ride it anywhere, at any reasonable speed, and it's fun. Not crazy fast, just fun. No launching from stoplights with grand prix RPMs, just let the clutch out with a touch of throttle and away it goes, cruise at 3,500 RPM in sixth gear if you want, it's all good.

No mods to my bike.

Felix Leiter
Originally posted by Shaman
The real lure of the SV650S is that it's a twin. Ride it anywhere, at any reasonable speed, and it's fun. Not crazy fast, just fun. No launching from stoplights with grand prix RPMs, just let the clutch out with a touch of throttle and away it goes, cruise at 3,500 RPM in sixth gear if you want, it's all good.

No mods to my bike.

I had one for 45min during the Suzuki test ride at a local dealer this summer! It solidified my intention to get one! I loved the ability of the thing to pull out of corners at low(ish) RPM! So light as well... a very fun bike (and since I'm not actually EBoz, I want a fun bike).

Next summer I'm getting up earlier though, I want to test the GSXR1000 just for kicks!

Sia Bani
It's pretty cool that already 2 of you here have sv650s...it took me awhile to go find their forums, and nobody even posted there. Great to see you here, dunnas and shaman.

dunnas
Originally posted by Sia Bani
It's pretty cool that already 2 of you here have sv650s...it took me awhile to go find their forums, and nobody even posted there. Great to see you here, dunnas and shaman.

Yes we rule. :clap: :clap: :D

Shaman
Funny, I found this thread when I was looking for the misnamed "Firebird vs. GSX-R 1000" thread (since he didn't race a GSX-R 1000).

So I include this latest pic of what I ended up doing...

http://www.rumour.com/bike2/Album/My Bike/outofelement.jpg

Sia Bani
Originally posted by TURBOZ
The SV's are great bikes, just not my idea of a sport bike. I always looked at it like a touring bike.

Well, it's neither. It's a standard that looks like a sports bike.

Tom
I rode my in-laws new Yamaha R6 not long ago and that thing was a blast. Not as fun as my 12R, but damn close.

The great thing about smaller bikes (600, 750cc) is they're a blast to floor out of a corner, you can't do that in a 230 hp ZX12R. However, the great thing about bigger bikes (1000,1200cc) is they're scary fast. It's all about what you like more. For me: I'm looking into an R6 as a second bike.:troy: