View Thread: Favourite Aftermarket Tuners


Pennzoil GT-R
here we go again........

Lingenfelter
Saleen
Koenig
JUN Auto
HKS
Blitz
Greddy/Trust
Brabus
Hamaan
Mine's
Henessey

I could put RUF in there but it seems a little unfair

FYRHWK1
go ahead, with lingenfelter in the mix it might ome down to the 2, but that'll likely be an american vs the world deal. Mine obviously goes to ling, does amazing things with cars, Mallet comes in a close second just because it's won so many one lap races.

Carlos Carrera
HSV?
Callaway?
Rush?
ABT?

Pennzoil GT-R
HSV are in house no?

Callaway are kind of the same as Lingenfelter and Henessey in the cars they do so i left them out.

And yes ABT can go in there, although i doubt theyll get many votes

Pennzoil GT-R
i went for JUN because i think they can do amazing things with cars, not just in a straight line either.

FYRHWK1
With so much attention being paid to lingenfelters powertrains people forget he can build whatever he decides to, he just isn't as famous in that arena, but a good tuner is a good tuner.

lexus1581
Blitz:badass:

Pennzoil GT-R
Originally posted by FYRHWK1
With so much attention being paid to lingenfelters powertrains people forget he can build whatever he decides to, he just isn't as famous in that arena, but a good tuner is a good tuner.

I understand that Lingenfelter can build good handling cars too, but its not what the US wants, so its rarely what he builds. Im sure he CAN build track cars but he doesnt do it often enough to get respect from me.

FYRHWK1
Unfortunatly you're right, I have to agree, he does it very rarely. Thats the prolem, as soon as you build a great engine & tranny people only pay attnetion to that.

mustangdriver
Saleen

Not many people have the balls to try to create a certified mid-engined exotic from the ground up. Modifying someone ELSE's cars is one thing, having the guts to build your own is damn impressive in my book!

:cheers:

Oh and I love thier 450hp supercharged Mustangs! :D

Rotary Boy
damn PD, I voted saleen and was about to make a post just like yours untill I scrolled down and saw that you had stolen my thoughts out of my skull.

mustangdriver
Not the first time. :D

Separated at birth hehehe

Sia Bani
both of you, get a room.....






for your wives and tape it.





Ya, I agree with that thought as well. Saleen.

911GT2
RUF, Gemballa, Techart, Strosek, Autothority? Nothin...

lsr78
I go with HKS mainly because they have been around for a while, put out a lot of quality products, and modify more than one vehicle. That says a lot to me.

RedLine
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
I understand that Lingenfelter can build good handling cars too, but its not what the US wants, so its rarely what he builds. Im sure he CAN build track cars but he doesnt do it often enough to get respect from me.

Boy I otta slap you silly! Lingenfelter won the Super Car challange hosted by C&D! If you're not familiar with this it is a race around a road coarse. And if I'm not mistaken, they have won it TWICE! :D

I still voted for Hennessey for obvious reasons.

SLP Addict
STFU With Hennessey, He's a lying, cheating, stealing little bitch, Ive met that mother fucker before, He's so fucking conceded(sp?), You realize lingenfelter did a viper, and it ate the shit out of hennesseys

Pennzoil GT-R
Originally posted by RedLine
Boy I otta slap you silly! Lingenfelter won the Super Car challange hosted by C&D! If you're not familiar with this it is a race around a road coarse. And if I'm not mistaken, they have won it TWICE! :D

I still voted for Hennessey for obvious reasons.

It won it because most of the cars entered were Vipers or Vettes.

:banghead:

FYRHWK1
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
It won it because most of the cars entered were Vipers or Vettes.

:banghead:

That and the fact it was faster then anything elsee involved, moron, now I remember why we don't let britain play in the automotive field anymore.

Pennzoil GT-R
and the US do? Its down to Europe and Japan now to make decent cars. If you want to argue that, why do financial analysts predict at least one of the big three to go under before 2010?

A-Tech
umm, what about the porsche that got second place? it still lost to the vette, and what about the NSX that was there as well.

mustangdriver
Autothority

FabUlous
hey fiyrehawk how ever the hell you spell it, dont call Pennzoil GTR a moron, no one deserves to be flamed for their opinions which they base heavily on supported fact.....

FYRHWK1
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
and the US do? Its down to Europe and Japan now to make decent cars. If you want to argue that, why do financial analysts predict at least one of the big three to go under before 2010?

You know what they say about "analysts" . . . Chyrslers already gone under, there is no more big three. Beyond that, GM just made more money then anyone counting their anscilliaries (motorsport sales, sub companies like allison and so on) last year and is gaining market share in nearly every country, especially europe given the amount of holden vehicles replacing old vauxhalls and opels. If either of the 2 go under, it's ford, and fat chance of that happening given their truck sales.

From what I remember, there was a mallet vette, lingenfelter vette and a viper, thats 3 cars. There was also a renntech which was quite powerful, a 3 rotor RX-7 turbo, an NSX, a HEAVILY modified autothority porsche and something else. These are all leaders in their respective fields and they lost, they supplied their own drivers so skill is hardly a question, and the track was run on the same day at fairly close times meaning there was no car which was at any noticable disadvantage.

I dont agree with their opinions on the cars (most notably claiming the lingenfelter to be on/off with the throttle, but saying no such thing about the RX-7 or porsche which both would have a larger problem with lag) but in the end, thats their opinion, and we all know magazine writers are some of the biggest morons on the planet so its to be taken with more then a grain of salt.

Pennzoil GT-R
Originally posted by FYRHWK1
You know what they say about "analysts" . . . Chyrslers already gone under, there is no more big three. Beyond that, GM just made more money then anyone counting their anscilliaries (motorsport sales, sub companies like allison and so on) last year and is gaining market share in nearly every country, especially europe given the amount of holden vehicles replacing old vauxhalls and opels. If either of the 2 go under, it's ford, and fat chance of that happening given their truck sales.

From what I remember, there was a mallet vette, lingenfelter vette and a viper, thats 3 cars. There was also a renntech which was quite powerful, a 3 rotor RX-7 turbo, an NSX, a HEAVILY modified autothority porsche and something else. These are all leaders in their respective fields and they lost, they supplied their own drivers so skill is hardly a question, and the track was run on the same day at fairly close times meaning there was no car which was at any noticable disadvantage.

I dont agree with their opinions on the cars (most notably claiming the lingenfelter to be on/off with the throttle, but saying no such thing about the RX-7 or porsche which both would have a larger problem with lag) but in the end, thats their opinion, and we all know magazine writers are some of the biggest morons on the planet so its to be taken with more then a grain of salt.
Ford are in big trouble due to new regulations coming into place in the US. Thats where all this comes from, they wont be allowed to just bolt the cabs on anymore to SUV's, they are going to have to build it as a monocoque, integrating the roof into the chassis to meet safety regulations. The problems have arised from the frame on chassis construction not being strong in rollover crashes.


As for the cars. Renntech are nothing on Brabus or Carlsson. Autothority arent RUF or Gemballa. The RX-7 wasnt in this years, and no US RX7 will compare to a Japanese one. And the other car was an IS300. A midsize saloon car up against supercars. Not really fair you might say? The best the US has to offer were entered, while the best from Japan and Europe werent there.

Carlos Carrera
DOnt start a war of EUROPE vs AMERICA crap... it doesnt worth the time.

Europe is better ... :D

No Really... Every country has good and bad cars.

Vettes are cool, and BadAss cars, and if Ferrari or Porsche or Alfa, or AUDi or MB want to make a Vette killer and make it cheaper, they can do it, but is not their market. The Vette is Fast and Cheap thats a Fact. Is it better than a Modena a 911 turbo a S4 or a M5? depends on what u consider ''better''.

Pennzoil GT-R
im just saying the supercar challenge is basicaly worthless if all sides are not represented equally.

Carlos Carrera
yes, im with u on that one.
But there are some availability problems for the european exotics, they are sold out, or making movies... :rolleyes:

FYRHWK1
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
Ford are in big trouble due to new regulations coming into place in the US. Thats where all this comes from, they wont be allowed to just bolt the cabs on anymore to SUV's, they are going to have to build it as a monocoque, integrating the roof into the chassis to meet safety regulations. The problems have arised from the frame on chassis construction not being strong in rollover crashes.


As for the cars. Renntech are nothing on Brabus or Carlsson. Autothority arent RUF or Gemballa. The RX-7 wasnt in this years, and no US RX7 will compare to a Japanese one. And the other car was an IS300. A midsize saloon car up against supercars. Not really fair you might say? The best the US has to offer were entered, while the best from Japan and Europe werent there.

No kidding on the chassis, I dont know if you know what a Ranger is, but its basically a car with a truckbed they call a mini truck, it's a 2 seater with maybe a 500 lb bed capacity. Thats the chassis for the probably doubly heavy explorer with 6-8 passengers and twice the ride height that it was meant for, and people wonder why it rolled over. They're coming out with new models for all of these anyway, they always have to increase something and safety needed to be on the list anyway, it's not a big problem when you're creating a new chassis anyway.

Brabus or carlsson could make more then the 700+ BHP it had, on pump gas and pass US emissions? what about RUF or Gemballa? pump fuel remember, and emissions legal, if the lingenfelter ans mallet, viper and so on have to be legal under these more stringent rules then so do the others. A US RX-7? how is a 3 rotor RX-7 US spec when we didnt even get the 3 rotor here? and how would its origin make any difference? it's heavily modified anyway.

Pennzoil GT-R
from what ive heard Ford designed the new F150 BEFORE they knew about the regulations so they have to either release it as is, or put it back a few years to redesign it, either option will potentially cost billions they dont have.

Brabus tune Mercedes better than anyone else, and RUF and Gemballa make a better car the any other Porsche tuner. Noone will ever tune a Japanese car like the Japanese.

Run-GSX
Couple more Japanese tuner additions. ABflug and Top Secret. :cheers: That being said , I like Greddy/Trust , they make some badass Skyline and Supra parts :hitit:
For American tuners , nobody beats Lingenfelter...............NOBODY :cheers:

Pennzoil GT-R
i left top secret out? damnit i wonder why. hmmmm i will put them in if more people want them, overall mine's and jun do a better job.

Run-GSX
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
i left top secret out? damnit i wonder why. hmmmm i will put them in if more people want them, overall mine's and jun do a better job.


I just like some of the crazy swaps they do. I mean , RB26 in a Supra? :troy: