View Thread: Cherokee 4.0,any good?


Pete.Z
Any known problems with the Chrysler/Jeep 4.0 engine?
Thinking about getting me one when I sell the Vette....that,or a nice Blazer K-5...not sure yet.....

But is the Cherokee,probably a early 90's one,worth buying??

Pennzoil GT-R
what happened to that bel air type thing you were looking at on AF?

Sia Bani
you're selling the vette? Why?

Pete.Z
The "bel air thing",what was a 59 Buick Electra btw,is off.The guy wanted to trade for the Vette...what is worth $4000 more...not good for me.Besides that,it is simply to unpractical to use as daily driver.

Sia,I'm trying to seel the vette because I'm driving it for 15 months now...just want another toy...

I'm not pushing it,but the word is out I'm selling....could take a week,could take months...I don't care.
I still enjoy the Vette,but there are so many great cars left I wan't to own....I'm in a big 4x4 mood right now....could change in a week....:D

Arthur Dent
I have a 98 one and I can't stand it. No reliability issues but its just so 80s and crude.

Gas mileage is aweful btw - worse than my old carb'd Z28

Aquemini
Originally posted by Arthur Dent
I have a 98 one and I can't stand it. No reliability issues but its just so 80s and crude.

Gas mileage is aweful btw - worse than my old carb'd Z28

Really? A friend of mine had a 96 and swore it got decent mileage. He even delivered pizzas in it. Perhaps he had a different opinion of what was acceptable gas mileage.

scubie02
Jeep's are great for off-roading, but otherwise to me should be avoided like the plague. I have had numerous friends who had them (my gf's sister has one now she wants to get rid of if anybody wants one) and they all swore that they could actually feel the vehicle tug to go in every time they passed a gas station, and they all had reliability issues. Whereas the Blazer's look nice, but I remember one comparo w/ the Blazer where they had to keep going back and pulling it out w/ one of the other vehicles, and said they were amazed at how easy it got stuck (they did say the crappy stock tires were probably part of the problem). They seem to be hit or miss w/ reliability. I know two people who have them that are mechanics that must like them--then again, they can fix them themselves if they need to. I knew another guy who had one and had just tons of problems. And they usually get blasted in reviews for fit and finish--big gaps and such.

Are you going to be using it for actual off-road use? Or pretty much not real serious off roading/mostly on road? What size are you looking for? Want luxury or ability? How much are you thinking of spending/what year vehicles will we probably be talking?

eric rxb
I've got a decent amount of experience with Jeeps. I think the 4.0 engine is a great engine, but if you're getting an auto I would aviod them. The auto used is pretty weak, and my parents had to replace the transmission in their JGC after only 60,000 miles. The engine on the other hand hasn't had any problems.

Arthur Dent
Originally posted by Aquemini
Really? A friend of mine had a 96 and swore it got decent mileage. He even delivered pizzas in it. Perhaps he had a different opinion of what was acceptable gas mileage.

Ours is the equipped with the slushbox and gets probably 12MPG or so. My old 78 Z28 got 15mpg. Of course my wife's a bit of a leadfoot.

Also the dual live axles made handling "interesting" and give new meaning to the phase "turning circle".

Pete - I'd swap you if you pitch in for shipping :D

scubie02
Oh, if we were just talking the engine itself, I don't think its awful or anything. I was taling whole package when discussing reliability.

It's all what you want that determines if a jeep is right for you. Its not really that there's something "wrong" with them, its just what they were designed for--it does what it should do, but some of those design features have other consequences, if you know what I mean. Arthur's comment in dual live axles is an excellent example. Part of the jeep's off road prowess is a result of the dual live axles, and they are one of the reasons that jeep owners are so loyal to them--try to find any other new vehciles that have them, and they are few and far between. Of course, that ssame feature that is so beneficial for off roading has some consequences when you're "on" road. Its all tradeoffs.

silverTA2002
If you're in an early 90's 4x4 mood, I'd definitely suggest my first car over a Cherokee. It was an 89 Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer. That thing was a blast to drive. Big, tough, cool looking, comfortable, ect.

Not exactly the best setup for off roading, but it did ok. Just make sure to get into 4wd BEFORE things get tough. The push button 4wd takes 6 feet rolling to get into gear.

Either way, that truck is much cooler than a cherokee.

scubie02
I actually had a couple of Bronco II's, and they were pretty good off road, quite reliable, and got wayyy better gas mileage than people report w/ the jeeps. I'd recommend one in a second for being reliable and decent off roaders.

Pete.Z
A Bronco 1 isn't out of the question,but they are very hard to find here...Blazer would be a older one,probably before 1978....safes me about $800 a year in taxes...

I'm not sure about the Cherokee,I don't mind the mileage to much,but it looks kind of small to me...I have to drive one I guess.I prefer auto's,I guess the GM would be the better choice then?

silverTA2002
If the cherokee is too small, you could also look at a grand cherokee.

Personally, I'd wait around for a Bronco (not bronco II, those suck ;))

ksaile
If your looking to wheel your junk Pete, look into a 70 series Land Cruiser with the turbo deisel. I believe they were available in your neck of the woods and can be had in a 2 door or a wagon body style (troop carrier). They eat just about anything for breakfast off road and are tough as nails. Live axles are the way to go offroad.

http://www.owens-export.com/stuff/dcp02553.jpg

http://www.brian894x4.com/LC77JPmodifiedwhite.gif

http://www.brian894x4.com/LC70boatontop.jpg

http://www.brian894x4.com/LC70camper.jpg

http://www.brian894x4.com/LC70whitepu2.jpg

God, I'd kill for the pop top Cruiser. I wish these things were available in the states.

<cruiser rant off>

ksaile
Uh, ok, one more. This one is :boobies:

http://www.brian894x4.com/LC75bigwhitecamper.jpg

Horus
the ultimate port-a-potty :tongue:

93JeepCherokee
Originally posted by scubie02
I actually had a couple of Bronco II's, and they were pretty good off road, quite reliable, and got wayyy better gas mileage than people report w/ the jeeps. I'd recommend one in a second for being reliable and decent off roaders.

:eek:

:mad:

Bronco II's are just fine...until you roll it over and die!
Reliable my ass. They're ten times worse than S-10 Blazers and Cherokees combined.

Originally posted by eric rxb
I've got a decent amount of experience with Jeeps. I think the 4.0 engine is a great engine, but if you're getting an auto I would aviod them. The auto used is pretty weak, and my parents had to replace the transmission in their JGC after only 60,000 miles. The engine on the other hand hasn't had any problems.

The auto in the JGC is not the same one(s) found in the XJ. The ZJs and WJs have Chrysler trannies. The XJ used (for the most part) Aisin-Warner AW4 automatics.

Really old XJ's used AMC 999 and 727 TorqueCommand automatics (which were really old hydraulic Chrysler Torqueflites).

Pete.Z
Originally posted by ksaile
If your looking to wheel your junk Pete, look into a 70 series Land Cruiser with the turbo deisel. I believe they were available in your neck of the woods and can be had in a 2 door or a wagon body style (troop carrier). They eat just about anything for breakfast off road and are tough as nails. Live axles are the way to go offroad.


God, I'd kill for the pop top Cruiser. I wish these things were available in the states.

<cruiser rant off>

We already own a Nissan Patrol...at least as good as the Toyota.
Ours is the 3.3 6-line diesel without turbo.Not fast,but strong.....and very good off-road.
This is it:

http://homepage.mac.com/jpz1/.Pictures/jp/patrolx2.jpg

Don't feel like owning two almost identical cars...besides that,I have this thing for American cars..... :)

scubie02
Yeah, toyota 4runners and landcruisers are decent, Pathfinders weren't so bad...the xterra's are probably one of the better newer ones as far as decent offroad w/out being toooo punishing. Some of the Isuzu's aren't bad, either.

scubie02
Originally posted by 93JeepCherokee
:eek:

:mad:

Bronco II's are just fine...until you roll it over and die!
Reliable my ass. They're ten times worse than S-10 Blazers and Cherokees combined.



Well, any stats I have ever seen would not seem to indicate that, nor my personal experience. Both of mine had over 160k miles on them and are still going. My Bronco would easily go places my brother's Blazer had a hard time with, for whatever reason. The Blazer's ride more carlike, though, if that's a concern. It also had a MUCH wider turning circle--Bronco II's can turn right around on themself practically. And While the Bronco II's had the rep for turning over because they were one of the earliest smaller suv's and lawyers saw potential to make money, pretty much ANY suv has the potential to rollover if you drive them stupidly--you drive an suv like an suv, not a sports car. I obviously never rolled mine. And lets face it warnglers haven't exactly had the best rep for rollovers either--do you consider them unsafe? Its all knowing how to drive.

I'm not saying Jeeps are bad vehicles--they're great off roaders. But lets face it jeeps overall haven't had the greatest reliability reps, and they are known for sucking gas. I've just seen that in every single case of friends who had them. I had a friend w/ a GTI that wanted to buy a new wrangler, which I was lukewarm about and told him why. He bought it anyway, and not much later I saw he was still driving the GTI alot. I asked him why and he said the jeep sucked gas like crazy, and the softtop leaked and was noisy, etc. My gf's sister and her husband have one as well, and she is always saying what a piece of crap it is and they want to get rid of it. It was being jumped int he parking lot as I left the other day (we work at the same place, and someone else was there w/ jumper cables before I left--otherwise I'd have ended up jumping it w/ my Ranger no doubt). My Ford trucks have never left me stranded, on the other hand (not that my Ranger is the ultimate offroader, but it gets the job done).

Like I said, it all depends on what you want it for. I don't do extreme rock climbing or anything w/ mine--it is a functional tool designed to get me into and out of remote hunting and fishing areas, and to haul wood and such. Now on the other hand, I am out in some pretty extreme waether in some very remote areas--the damn thing has to START and get me in and out, etc, or it could be life threatening. For an actual use vehicle, my vehicles have done a good job and never left me stranded in the woods.

scubie02
Oh, and of course ksaile is right that rangerovers/landrovers are awesome off roaders, if you have the cash.

Pete.Z
Land Rover/Range Rover....to many around overhere...I want something different....

If I ever sell the Vette,I think I'm going to look at a Blazer K-5 first...still my favorite 4x4.The Small Blazer isn't to bad,but,well,small....just like the Bronco 2...

ksaile
Originally posted by Pete.Z
We already own a Nissan Patrol...at least as good as the Toyota.
Ours is the 3.3 6-line diesel without turbo.Not fast,but strong.....and very good off-road.
This is it:

http://homepage.mac.com/jpz1/.Pictures/jp/patrolx2.jpg

Don't feel like owning two almost identical cars...besides that,I have this thing for American cars..... :)

Cool Patrol Pete. In that first shot, is that some sort of offroad trial competition? Looks fun. I'm curious, how do the prices of the Cherokees compare to those of Cruisers, Land Rovers, and Patrols there?

Pete.Z
Thanks.
That was a trial competition yes.I did that a few times,fun to play with the 4x4 every now and then.I was pretty good too.

The Cherokee is cheap overhere...Patrols and Land Cruisers are worth a lot more.Most of them are real working vehicles,maybe thats why.Cherokees are bought by soccer moms......