View Thread: YES OR NO FOR ATTEMPT?


lexus1581
Saturn currently has little to no presence in the sport-compact scene with the ho-hum Ion sedan and coupe. GM's plastic brand wants to change that and, accordingly, is launching the new Ion Red Line coupe. Powered by a 2.0-liter supercharged and intercooled 200-horsepower (estimated) version of the Ecotec four-cylinder engine, the Ion Red Line comes equipped with a close-ratio, short-throw five-speed manual transmission that should enable the coupe to hit 60 mph in around 7.0 seconds. Performance upgrades are numerous and include larger equal-length halfshafts; a high-flow, performance-tuned exhaust and induction system; four-wheel disc brakes with ABS; performance-tuned springs, shocks, bushings, and stabilizer bars; 17 x 7 inch, five-spoke forged alloy wheels shod with Continental 215/45R17 W-rated tires; and a 10-mm lower ride height. The exterior comes with racy front and rear fascias, rocker moldings, and several rear-wing choices. Production is scheduled to begin in early 2004.
SO YES OR NO FOR THE ATTEMPT?

Rotary Boy
wow, with all that and that bag of chips that car only hits 60 in 7.0 seconds.
which means it either doesn't have 200Hp, or it weighs 3300lbs. i would expecct better. the saturn twin cam was at least peppy. not that 7.0 to 60 isn't peppy, but this is the world of the under 20K dollar car in the low 14's. a car that runs flat 7's just doesn't cut it for fast anymore

masestylez
Nice try but Saturn needs to stay where it's (slightly more)better.

lsr78
It wouldn't bother me if every manufacturer offered forced induction of some kind. I say thumbs up (although I would prefer turbo for tunability)

Rotary Boy
the ecotec is a motor with alot of potential, it's just it is getting used the wrong way. if GM would just give me command of a design team and the GM parts bin I would build them a portal into the hearts and minds of americas car focused youth.

mustangdriver
I like it appearance-wise. Pretty nice looking :cheers:

But I had a 200hp NA car that was as fast or faster so I'm not all that impressed by the performance.

With cars like the SRT4 and MSProtege in the 20K market, Saturn will need more to compete.

mrgokou
Agreed with pd... it's not bad, but saturn needs a whole lot more to compete with the sport compact world.

eric rxb
Too little too late

silverTA2002
It's actually not a bad looking car.

With 200hp, it'll be quite a bit faster than 7 seconds to 60 though. My 195hp GP GT did 0-60 in 7 seconds, and weighed over 3350 lbs.

Michitakem
Originally posted by lexus1581
Saturn currently has little to no presence in the sport-compact scene with the ho-hum Ion sedan and coupe.
SO YES OR NO FOR THE ATTEMPT?

Yes!

Anyone who wants to see Saturn stick with grocery getters is just afraid that yet another car will come out and spank their Civic. :smoke:

Competition is always a good thing.:clap: :clap: :clap:

scubie02
Well, its fine that they make SOME attempt to get into the game. It'll still be faster than the average grocery getter. The problem is that they will just end up discounting it like crazy, because there is nothing to really make it stand out or make you want it over some other car--many of which will outperform it. When you come out with a new car, you want it to trump the competition, at least for a little while, not just come in midway or even back of the pack. And the whole attraction to the offset dash thing always mystified me--why would you want that?