View Thread: Michelin Cross Terrain SUV tires. Bought em. Love em!


hambone
For any of my fellow SUV drivers who are looking for new tires, I would highly recommend the Michelin Cross Terrain SUV/Light truck tires. I just bought them for my 2000 Pathfinder SE and it feels like a different SUV! Now, they are expensive. Apprx. 230-260 per tire and after tax (Canadian) it's around $1200-$1300.00:cry:.

But they're worth every penny. I use Bridgestone Blizzacks in the winter, which grip as hard as Oprah on a hamburger. Snow, ice... childs play for the mighty Blizzack...

Anyways, back to the Cross Terrain Michelins... They got installed on Friday afternoon, my wife and I had a few hours of driving in many different types of road surfaces this weekend (taking the backroads to the in-laws...):cry::cry:. They made a usually bumpy ride into a luxuriously soft but stable and well controlled feeling. They absorbed bumps nicely, with very little 'wiggle' like some cheap tires or snow tires that are too soft can do. The thing that surprised my the most was how smooth the ride was. The roads we travelled were 80km/hr. Normally once I get around 100km/hr I can feel it with my snow tires or the Dunlop all seasons I had previously. So I'd catch myself and slow down so I didn't get a speeding ticket. But these Michelin tires were so smooth I was doing almost 120km/hr when I looked down at the speedometre!
I kept doing that all day, checking the speedometre and almost every time I was doing 10-15 km/hr more than it felt. So smooth.
These tires stick like glue around corners as well. I really can't say enough about these tires except, if you have an SUV like mine (similar in size) GET THESE TIRES! They are amazing.


Now thats a handsome tire! :)
http://www.michelin.ca/ca/eng/local/catalog/images/large_crossterrainsuv.jpg

scubie02
Hmm, thanks for the heads up Hambone--I'll probably get new tires for the Ranger next year--the Duelers just aren't cutting it for snow and off road--wonder if these would be any better...?

hambone
Originally posted by scubie02
Hmm, thanks for the heads up Hambone--I'll probably get new tires for the Ranger next year--the Duelers just aren't cutting it for snow and off road--wonder if these would be any better...?

Hey scubie,
So you've got a Ranger eh? What year? Is it the 'Edge' model? I like those.

Well, I'd have to say if you're going to be in Southwestern Ontario anytime in the near future you could take my path out for a spin and see what you thought. You're in New York right? We face similar weather conditions. Were actually not really that far away from each other, I'm about 2 hours south of Toronto.

I'll probably never find out how they perform in snow because I use the Blizzacks for the winter driving. Now those, are good winter tires.

The guys at the tire shop said the Cross Terrains were great in the snow and were good in mud as well. If that helps... But one thing I did read was that if you're an aggressive driver or you drive fast with alot of quick stopping etc... these tires will wear quickly. If you're a regular driver you should be fine.


I have a question for you scubie,

Are you a hockey fan? If so, Rangers or Islanders?

lexus1581
i know im not scubes but i got to reply to your question. Lets go Islanders! Im 15 minutes from the arena and have been a life long fan even though they sucked so much in the 90s.

Mr.Dave
"which grip as hard as Oprah on a hamburger"

HAHAHAH! One of the better analogies I've heard in a long time!!! Nice! :)

hambone
Originally posted by lexus1581
i know im not scubes but i got to reply to your question. Lets go Islanders! Im 15 minutes from the arena and have been a life long fan even though they sucked so much in the 90s.


15 minutes from the arena! If I lived that close to Maple Leaf Gardens or the Air Canada Centre l'd be in pure heaven. Obviously I'm a Leafs fan. Lifelong, even thru the bad years.
http://nhl.speedera.net/img/team/tor50.gif

You must hate the Leafs, most fans do. The islanders are a solid team, is their goalie that Depietro kid? If so, he's looking like one of the 'up & comers'.

Aside from that, I've got a question for you. Do you remember Wayne Merrick from the Islanders in the Stanley Cup years in the early 80's (unsure of exact year). I used to work with him at the last company I worked for. He has something like four stanley cup rings, he always wore one of them. Pretty cool. Nice guy.

2200SLS
Originally posted by scubie02
Hmm, thanks for the heads up Hambone--I'll probably get new tires for the Ranger next year--the Duelers just aren't cutting it for snow and off road--wonder if these would be any better...?

Do you have the Dueler A/T's? I have those on my truck they are fine for a 2wd truck, but i don't know if they are quite rugged enough for a 4wd. i have about 24,000 on mine, they seem to be wearing even and at a decent rate considering they are soft. I will probably replace with H/T before this winter. My A/T's will be bald by then

Sia Bani
I'm moving this to aftermarket. (I'll leave a copy in general so our "newbie" knows where it went :cheers:)

2200SLS
Originally posted by Sia Bani
I'm moving this to aftermarket. (I'll leave a copy in general so our "newbie" knows where it went :cheers:)

Bastard it took me 20 mins to find the thread, and many vehicles come with Michelin Xterrains as standard Equip. :tahoe:

ksaile
Eh, you need some more nobbies. Give the Good Year MTR's or BFG Mud Terrains a shot. If you are taking your rigs out in the junk at all, or drive in snow regularly, nothing touches them.

I've gotten close to 70,000 miles out of my current set of Mud Terrains right now and am getting another set soon. Thats a very good life expectancy for an aggressively treaded tire. The Good Years are supposed to be great too, but the wear life is less.

http://www.etires.com/images/tirespec/bfgoodrich/mudta.jpg


:cheers:

scubie02
Originally posted by hambone
Hey scubie,
So you've got a Ranger eh? What year? Is it the 'Edge' model? I like those.



Whoops, sorry, didn't get back to see your question.

Yeah, I have a Ranger--its a 94 Supercab 4x4. It's my secondary vehicle that I use for hauling stuff and general recreational use. Plus its a 4x4 so my gf can use it when its especially snowy (since I have the subie, and her vehicle's rwd). Its not an edge model, though--those seem hard to come by in my area in 4x4 unless they are a ton of money for some reason, and I was trying to be reasonable in the $$ department since this is largely a luxury anyway since I'm single and not exactly rich... :pd:

scubie02
Originally posted by 2200SLS
Do you have the Dueler A/T's? I have those on my truck they are fine for a 2wd truck, but i don't know if they are quite rugged enough for a 4wd. i have about 24,000 on mine, they seem to be wearing even and at a decent rate considering they are soft. I will probably replace with H/T before this winter. My A/T's will be bald by then

Yeah, mine had the Duelers on it when I got it, and plenty of tread so its semi hard to justify new tires on a secondary vehicle. They are nice in some ways--decent riding, fairly quiet, seem to wear decently, but when the snows really flying...well, they do alright in average conditions but I had a time getting started a few times when it was especially bad. Could just be the Ranger though--my two Bronco II's were much better in 4wd and they had no name cheap tires. But its ok. One thing I DON'T like about the Duelers is they aren't so hot in the rain as far as stopping. You lay on the brakes and you just sliiiiiiide.

Anyway, they still have enough tread I feel a little guilty, but assuming I have some money I might try new tires before next winter hits.

scubie02
Originally posted by ksaile
Eh, you need some more nobbies. Give the Good Year MTR's or BFG Mud Terrains a shot. If you are taking your rigs out in the junk at all, or drive in snow regularly, nothing touches them.

I've gotten close to 70,000 miles out of my current set of Mud Terrains right now and am getting another set soon. Thats a very good life expectancy for an aggressively treaded tire. The Good Years are supposed to be great too, but the wear life is less.


:cheers:

Yeah, those look like badass tires and have a good rep. I was just trying to go cheap. :pd: I was contemplating Yokohama Geolanders as a possible good compromise tires--hopefully better traction fro snow and such, but decent in rain and such too. Plus I like the Yoko 30 day drive it and see if you like it guarantee.

These are the Yoko's...

scubie02
They're only like $72 a piece at Tire Rack. The other one's I was considering w/ a bit more aggressive tread (more similar to the ones you were recommending) were some Kumho Ventures--they're only $74 I think. ANy experience with either of these?

scubie02
Oh, as far as uses--it snows alot here so they get heavy snow use all winter. Most of the off-roading I do is more practical rather than extreme as far as heavy duty rock climbing or something--some 4 wheeler trails through the woods, tractor trails up hills etc (some of these are pretty steep and rocky, mind you--but I'm not USUALLY crashing through 4 ft of water or anything--though you never know :pd: ) Its mostly places I would be going to get to hunting or fishing spots, etc. We do take the occasional drive on some semo rough trails just for fun on a nice day or evening though.

Otherwise its just daily road driving, hauling wood, etc.

I'm sort of torn between the Yoko's that seem to have a decent rep and be an allaround good tire and the kumho's that look to have a little more of the aggressive tread like you were mentioning.

ksaile
I've heard that those Kumho's are pretty good tires. Their sidewalls are a little weaker then the BFG's but unless your rock crawling it likely won't matter. Tire Rack has that user feedback with each tire, do you ever read that? There are some good oppinions on there sometimes which can be usefull. $74 seems like a pretty good deal. My new tires are going to be a little over $150 a piece, that hurts.

scubie02
Yeah, I've looed at the reviews and such and just cab't decide. The Kumho's don't have a single bad review, but even though they are different class tires the Yoko's rate about the same for everything, but seem better in rain, less noisy, and have the tread warranty. The Kumho's rate better for snow though. But either is supposed to be a huge improvement over the duelers.

ksaile
The link doesn't work. You should consider what the primary use of your truck is when deciding. If you do take it off road, if you use it for trips or alot of highway driving, and go from there. I personally use my truck for 95% of the driving that I do year round. I do take it off road alot, but I also use it from day to day and on long road trips. Personally I find the drawbacks of tire hum and ride of a mud terrain tire fine for the benefits that I gain in the near constant snow packed roads I drive here in the winter, and the performance I get off road when I call upon it. But that's just me though, some people are bothered more by the sacrifices. The way I look at it is, its a friggin truck, if I want something to fling in the turns or drive fast, I'll drive one of my cars. Same probably being your case with your Rex.

scubie02
Originally posted by ksaile
The link doesn't work. You should consider what the primary use of your truck is when deciding. If you do take it off road, if you use it for trips or alot of highway driving, and go from there. I personally use my truck for 95% of the driving that I do year round. I do take it off road alot, but I also use it from day to day and on long road trips. Personally I find the drawbacks of tire hum and ride of a mud terrain tire fine for the benefits that I gain in the near constant snow packed roads I drive here in the winter, and the performance I get off road when I call upon it. But that's just me though, some people are bothered more by the sacrifices. The way I look at it is, its a friggin truck, if I want something to fling in the turns or drive fast, I'll drive one of my cars. Same probably being your case with your Rex.

Yeah, thats always the tack I have taken in the past with my suv's. I tend to drive my truck totally differen than my car--much slower and w/out hard cornering and such in general. The only thing that concerns me at all is how much I might sacrifice in handling or wet traction because the gf occasionally drives it. How are the tires you use on your suv (which look like a similar pattern to the Kumhos)--do they get decent wet traction and do they handle ok? Like I said, I'm not looking for sports car handling, but when I first got the truck I was going fairly slowly down a fairly steep road, it was raining but not particularly hard, and some guy stopped abruptly and I just slid--had to go off the road a little to avoid hitting him. That was my first "ain't really likin' these duelers" moment. Now I drive so as to compensate for that sort of thing if possible, but she doesn't always drive to conditions...

Anyway--how do yours seem in comparison to whatever came on your vehicle (which would probably be a similar class to the Duelers I'm thinking)?

ksaile
The tires that came on my Cruiser originally were little 235/75/15 Dayton Timberline's. They were the typical SUV tire that provided only adequate traction offroad and were really designed for street use. When I put the 33' Mud Terrains on, the first noticable thing is the squirm factor, that is the amount that the tread lugs themselves flex and bend when cornering. It almost at first seems like you have low air pressure, but once you get used to it, it isn't a big deal. The tread tends to stretch and deform when a lot of cornering force is encountered, while they still grip well, its really the behavior that the tire displays as it moves towards it's adhesion limits that feels different. Most of the flex that I was feeling to was due to the fact that my truck weighs 5,500lbs and is on a really skinny 9.50 width tire too.

http://www.cartogra.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=2c655762-6911-3531-826d-4f8e85ad5ff6&size=lg

That's why my new tires are 33x12.50's. As far as wet traction, I've never had any issues with my truck regarding that. I should state though, that I do very little driving in traffic or real city driving for that matter. I'm pretty cautious if its wet anyway when driving heavy vehicles. But in the cases where I've needed to stop in a hurry, they've been fine in rain, on the snow they've been phenomenal and much safer then the orginal street tires.