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lexus1581
avanti is set to produce an xuv (xtreme utility vehicle) 325-horsepower, 6.0-liter turbo-diesel V-8 or a 310-hp, 6.8-liter V-10. The V-10 may be equipped with an optional supercharger, which raises the engine rating to 425 hp and 5900 pounds. sounds like the h2 to me.
http://www.cars.com/news/stories/021403_storyb_cc.jhtml?aff=national

masestylez
They are getting sued over it.

lexus1581
by who hummer?

masestylez
by GM yeah

lexus1581
i would sue too if i was gm head person for taking the hummer and putting it under a different name

lexus1581
update on avanti vs gm case: avanti claims that the xuv is distinctly different from the h2 because it is 2 feet longer, has a different grille and also a rounded hood. They also claim gm wants to sue them just so they could monopolize the boxy, suv market preventing ford, avanti and chrysler from this type of suv.
link for more: http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/dai/2003/february/20030218_dai_avanti.xml

k6kicker
I dont see how a car based on a totally dif. platform is worth a lawsuit...it doesnt even use the same engine.........

lexus1581
even though h2 uses a vortec and avanti studebaker uses a turbo diesel THEY ARE incredibly alike with bhp and lb ft.

mrgokou
Gm just doesn't want to loose buyers. Thats the only reason for the suit.

Apple_Jacks
frivolous law suits on that kind of sclae are gay, GM should stop whining, god forbid they loose alittle money off the ugly as sin H2 and we have to call a wambulance for them

lexus1581
im tired of gm trying to monopolize the american market by keeping competition as low as possible the avanti isnt as much like the h2 as it appears to be. It also doesnt seem like it would be a direct threat to gm itself considering avanti isnt a big name anymore.

911GT2
I'm pretty sure they used the word "hummer-like" somewhere in their advertising. That would explain a lawsuit.

lexus1581
but is the "hummer-like" xuv actually gonna decrease buyer rates from the h2 by a lot? answer=no because of the liability of a hummer over an ?avanti? maybe the h2 will have 500 less buyers if that much because of the studebaker co.

masestylez
yeah but if they don't sue it sets a precedent that GM doesn't matter if you rip off their cars. Sounds far fetched, but everytime this sort of lawsuits comes up, you don't see many more imitators do you?

lexus1581
your right if companies see that avanti could get away with a hummer like xuv then maybe ford will start producing a hummer like suv named the F2

masestylez
If Ford made it i'd call it the Ford Alt+F4. HARH AR HAR </lameassjoke>

lexus1581
haha id call it the FUV ( ford utility vehicle) or :finger:

k6kicker
you mean fucked up vechicle right? :tahoe:

lexus1581
update on case: avanti wins stage 1 of law suit claiming their xuv isnt as similar as it seems to be to the h2 if u just put them side by side

k6kicker
that would have been like chevy sueing ford for making a pony car........