View Thread: favorite motors of all time.


Rotary Boy
in no particular order list your fav. modes of power production.ignore what car it came in originally if you feel, like. do you see a motor that has alot of potential as a motor for somthing entirly different then post it.

me

20B three rotar-duh, it's just so impressive and in NA is the coolest damn thing ever, a NA 20B would make a great motor for any number of things from cute utes to minivans to sport coupes, while the turbo'ed(or supercharged, they make S/c kits for 20B's) would be awesome for sports cars and real GT cars.

the 4G63 would make an awesome fleet motor, and since daimler just bought mistubishi wouldn't it be cool if that happened! if they left the 4G63 largly unchanged and put it in as many vehicles as they could then that would totally rock(especially if they were 1G DSM or Lancer evo style 4G's) not only would there be tons of awesome motors running around in POS cars(can you imagine if there were hordes of evo powered minivans!) making the POS cars mildly exciting it would also flood the market with 4G63's for use in swaps and anything else anyone wanted to do with them. for only this dream to be realized.

the jeep 4.7L V8 would be downright awesome in somthing midengined and halfway light and nimble(say 3000lbs and the handling abilites of a Z28) that would kickass, becuase even though it is currently in a jeep that motor is pretty fucking fine, 275Hp and 325 torque(real low torque and it can actually rev pretty well), that would just be cool in a small midengined car with a good 6 speed, and wouldn't it be weird as all get out if jeep made it.

you all may not know this but the 2.3L turbo I5 from volvo is a beast, nobody does anything to boost em though so nody really knows that, some guy in denver has a vovlo with that motor and a 20G customed fitted up to it and man can it fly(granted it is still a fucking box but it can move)

and who can go 20minutes with out thinking about the SR20DET, much like the 4G63 it would be cool to have this motor it more cars on the road even if to just flood the market with them. it would be so cool to see this motor get a big shift to this side of the pond, if only nissan would put them in somthing and make whatever that somthing is really popular and sell it over here.

SLP Addict
Ls Series, and Lt series i always thought was great, and most of the engines RB listed, and the old 5.0's are great. blah, sorry im not being into detail, christmas is a depressing time of year.

CLK-GTR
20B
RB26
SR20
Audi/VW W12

CLK-GTR
and actually RB, yes the Volvo I5 is an awesome engine. We used to have a Volvo 850R. The thing sounded great and went like a rocket

vq powered
Originally posted by Rotary Boy

and who can go 20minutes with out thinking about the SR20DET, much like the 4G63 it would be cool to have this motor it more cars on the road even if to just flood the market with them. it would be so cool to see this motor get a big shift to this side of the pond, if only nissan would put them in somthing and make whatever that somthing is really popular and sell it over here.

Hey if it werent for emissions there would probably be one in my car right now.

Here are a few of mine:

Chevy's LS1/LS6: 'Nuf said.

Nissan's VG/VQ series engines: If you think about it, these are Japan's equivalents of the LS1/LS6. Torquey and very tuneable.

Any turbocharged 2L Japanese engine: High revving, loud, tuneable and obnoxious. Responsible for a lot of domestic boys' dissappointments in their kind at strips.

Ferrari V8s: Turboed, NA, whatever. I'd keep one of these in my room hooked up to an alarm clock so I could wake up to the sound of an Italian songbird every morning.

Audi's Turbo 4s: These have been making noise since the 80s. So powerful they used to gas up on their own. However, they've been replaced in the performance line by bigger engines. Oh well.

So many other great engines I can't think of right now will probably get mentioned later. I think the ICE in general is pretty fascinating on its own, don't you?

-95SE

911GT2
GM large displacement motors (LS1/6) tend to suffer from large oil consumption and piston slap though.

I'd have to say the Porsche flat six belongs somewhere on my list.

Shaman
The piston slap is somewhat of an issue, though it's very rare in the LS1s, and the oil burning is not a serious issue, though some people like to think so... in regular driving you can expect the 97/98 engines and the earliest production run of the LS6 to burn a bit of oil - but not enough to add oil between oil changes.

IMHO, these issues don't outweigh the good points of the engines - and as I said, they are blown WAY out of proportion by some people.

Anyway, LS6 is my favourite engine right now. Followed by the 3-rotor that is near impossible to get, and then by the RB26, and of course the latest M5 and M3 engines - very impressive stuff. I am not impressed by Ferrari's engines - yes they are technically impressive, but to get similar results to a LS6 they are hard on fuel and high on maintenance.

REALLY impressive is the Hayabusa motorcycle engine. 180hp, 1.3L and it's mildly tuned!

911GT2
During warmup before the pistons have expanded, the things burn oil like mad. After that it's fine. But the piston slap can cause major problems.

Shaman
Uhm, no. Piston slap is auditory, nothing more. Those people who have noticed it (and they're few) only hear it when the car first starts up. And, the oil burning is not "mad", it's very light. 3,500 miles of regular driving will burn up less than a quart.

Shaman
BTW, most racing engines (including mine) have some piston slap. They live a long time at redline, many guys have cars that are 25 years old that bang like a drum every time they're fired up. It's amazing that a little piston slap doesn't hurt them - until it gets severe enough to break a skirt, at least.

CLK-GTR
while i think about it, i have to include the ferrari flat 12's. theres not many better sounding engines out there.

911GT2
Originally posted by Shaman
Uhm, no. Piston slap is auditory, nothing more. Those people who have noticed it (and they're few) only hear it when the car first starts up. And, the oil burning is not "mad", it's very light. 3,500 miles of regular driving will burn up less than a quart.

Yeah, but short trips will burn more oil.

All depends on usage.

And you're saying that slapping has no adverse effects??? Really?

I can't imagine that metal smashing into metal does nothing.

Shaman
Believe it or not, motors live just fine with a little slap. If it's chronic, that's different, but in the LS1's case we are talking about something barely audible.

My first motor was a disaster, I should have been a lot more pissy with ARE than I was. You haven't heard piston slap until you heard my first racing motor. Oof. But they rebuilt me a new one inexpensively because they knew that, and it turned out to be a gem. I should have kept it! Then I went 422, and it was a stinker too - but damn, power! Now they're rebuilding the motor free of charge even though the shop has changed hands (Wade, the second in command, bought it from Nick Agostino). It's taking a long time but it's hard to fault them when they're replacing a block and doing the labour free.

SLP Addict
And the sad fact is, most people who drive LS1's are teens, who have there mommy and daddy by them a car, and think they can race because they have a muscle car, and the engines are either 1)Never used and go to waste, or 2)Are abused all too hell and the owner of the car wrecks the car and kills the motor.

911GT2
Ah, i get ya shaman. I just heard it affected all large displacement GM motors including the LS1/6 but it didn't state severity. I heard some of their truck motors are nothing short of awful for it.

And SLP, most LS series drivers are not young people. They're old people who couldn't afford a muscle car back when they were 20. Sort of a waste to have a sportscar used by someone who'll never push it hard, but you've gotta have respect for hard work.

I for one have never seen anyone under 25 driving a LS1/6 BTW.

SLP Addict
I RARLY see anyone over that drving them, i no alot of people who are 20-25 who drive them with a passion, and do them like there sposed to (ie...kris( owner of thongracing.com had a 700hp all motor lt1, and it had a 300 shot, and now has a bottle fed formula, and im not sure wat crazy HP it has, along with 500HP GSX's and what not.) but i just dont like really young(16-20) people or old people who wolnt use them, pete-z is fine cause he understands the power, and like you said, i respect them for working hard to get what they want, but maybe gm should have a "Led foot" driving school come with there muscle cars.

911GT2
PeteZ owns a C3, not a LS1/6 equipped vette. Crossfire 350 I think.

SLP Addict
Errrrrrrr, not pete, sorr, i ment patchz. the one with the white z/28

CLK-GTR
what happened to patchz? never comes here or AF anymore. dont think he goes to carforums.net anymore either.

SLP Addict
hmmm, i just realized that, im hoping nothing happend to him.

911GT2
He partially lost vision. Don't know if he can read anymore.

k6kicker
Nissan - rb series, vg and its vq sibling, sr20det
chevy- small block and all its refreshes clear to the ls6
ford- 5.0
mazda - 13b and 20b
honda - f20c (i think thats whats it's called)
subaru - whatever they call thier turbo boxer-4 in the wrx and it bigger brother the sti
just about anything that comes from europe and has 6 12 or 4 turbochargers, supercharger, or hell even n/a setups
mitsu - turbo 4...the name slips my mind right now......
Anything that displaces 383 cubic inches or greater and isn't being used in a truck

911GT2
Originally posted by k6kicker
Nissan - rb series, vg and its vq sibling, sr20det
chevy- small block and all its refreshes clear to the ls6
ford- 5.0
mazda - 13b and 20b
honda - f20c (i think thats whats it's called)
subaru - whatever they call thier turbo boxer-4 in the wrx and it bigger brother the sti
just about anything that comes from europe and has 6 12 or 4 turbochargers, supercharger, or hell even n/a setups
mitsu - turbo 4...the name slips my mind right now......
Anything that displaces 383 cubic inches or greater and isn't being used in a truck

I'd have to assume F20C means the S2000 2.0 liter, and the Mitsu turbo 4 is the 4G63.

And is there anything higher than 383 cubic inches in anything except for the Viper??

CLK-GTR
i think the TVR speed 12 is bigger, but we dont use cubic inches here so i dont know how big exactly that is.

mustangdriver
H22A and VW's 1.8T :D

mostly because I own them :D

Others:
LS-6
VQ series
SR20DET
BMW M-engines
Ferrari V12's
Viper V10

911GT2
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
i think the TVR speed 12 is bigger, but we dont use cubic inches here so i dont know how big exactly that is.

350 cubic inches=5.7 liters.

Arthur Dent
Lotus 907
Chrysler 383/440 BB V8
Mazda 12A/13B N/A
Porsche Flat 6
Chev ZL1
SBC
Ford 302 FI

k6kicker
there are plkenty of motors bigger then a 383, like the hemi and just about any crate engine you buy......

Shaman
My motor = 422 cubic inches. :D

masestylez
Originally posted by Rotary Boy

the 4G63 would make an awesome fleet motor, and since daimler just bought mistubishi wouldn't it be cool if that happened!

I thought Chrysler just had a controlling share of Mitsubishi's Automotive division? I could be wrong but if I remember right it was something like that or they had some kind of weird distribution deal going on. Anyone wanna clear that up for me?